richard.weiss
Member
For those with 2018+ Wings who use a headset, this post is to help:
1) those of us who choose blue tooth comms to understand what the capabilities and limitations of each configuration option are and
2) everyone (wired or bluetooth) to know of a best practice for connecting your phone to your headset.
This isn't a debate about whether blue tooth or wired is best nor is it a debate about what headset is best.
WARNING: Both Sena and Cardo reps said it is best to only use one path at a time between the phone and the headset.
CRITICAL: Only have the phone connected to either the bike (USB or Bluetooth) or Headset, not both at the same time.
For Folks with bluetooth headsets - there are three (3) paths from your phone to your headset
a) phone to bike via wired (USB) then bike to headset, b) phone to bike via wireless (BT) then bike to headset, and c) phone directly to headset wireless (BT)
For folks with wired headsets - there are two (2) paths from your phone to your headset
a) phone to bike via wired (USB) then bike to headset via J&M adapter, b) phone to bike via wireless (BT) then bike to to headset via J&M adapter
Warning: Per the Sena and Cardo reps, even folks with wired headsets should turn off the phone to bike bluetooth connection (if they have it) when plugging the phone into the USB on the bike.
Click Here for a Start Up Guide that ensures comms connect consistently and ACP or AA launch
As discussed in many other threads, consistently following the same start up sequence is a key to success.
Assumption: Headset(s) is(are) connected with the bike (wireless or wired)
A note about extra navigation systems (Garmin, Tom Tom, ect): Extra navigation systems should be paired and connected to the headset on the headset's GPS channel.
Help decision making easier:
Wireless Headset (Bluetooth)
For folks running wireless there are two key choices that need to be made
Choice 1 - either connect your phone to bike (USB or BT) or connect your phone to headset (BT)
then, if choosing to connect your phone to the bike
Choice 2 – either connect phone to bike via USB or connect your phone to the bike via BT.
If choosing USB, the best practice is, on your phone, to turn off BT pairing with the bike
Make those choices based on the capabilities you need/want. The key capabilities can be found in the small tables on the lower left of each configuration
Wired Headset
For folks running wired there is one key choice that needs to be made
Choice 1 – either connect phone to bike via USB or connect your phone to the bike via BT.
If choosing USB, the best practice is, on your phone, to turn off BT pairing with the bike
Make that choice based on the capabilities you need/want.
NOTE: If you are running an extra navigation system (Garmin, Tom Tom, ect), pair and connect the extra nav to your headset on the GPS channel.
Example 1:
You are using a wireless headset. Your phone will be mounted on the handlebars. You want to use the CoPilot app on your phone for route navigation. CoPilot voice commands will not route through the bike to the headset. You would like to be able to receive phone calls. You don’t care about getting text messages. You don’t care about hands free voice commands.
Choice 1: Pair your headset to your phone. On your phone disable the Bluetooth connection with the bike
Choice 2: Not Applicable
Example 2:
You are using a wireless headset. Your phone will be in the center pocket or mounted on handlebars. You want to play music or a pod cast on your phone. You would like to be able to receive phone calls. You don’t care about getting text messages. You don’t care about hands free voice commands.
Choice 1: Connect your headset to the bike.
Choice 2: Pair your phone to the bike via Bluetooth. On your phone disable the Bluetooth connection with the headset
Example 3:
You are using a wireless headset. You want to use Rever, In Route, or Scenic for route navigation. You want to be able to interact with Rever, In Route, or Scenic to modify the route if needed. You would like hands free voice commands. You would like to be able to receive phone calls and listen to and respond to texts messages
Choice 1: Connect your headset to the bike.
Choice 2: Connect your phone to the bike via USB. Your phone will be in the center pocket. On your phone disable the Bluetooth connection with the bike and the headset.
Note: For Example 3, you can leave the Bluetooth connection between the bike and phone enabled but if there is a small chance the BT pairing will not be fully shut off automatically by the phone or bike and cause. If that happens, conflicts and failures may occur
.
1) those of us who choose blue tooth comms to understand what the capabilities and limitations of each configuration option are and
2) everyone (wired or bluetooth) to know of a best practice for connecting your phone to your headset.
This isn't a debate about whether blue tooth or wired is best nor is it a debate about what headset is best.
WARNING: Both Sena and Cardo reps said it is best to only use one path at a time between the phone and the headset.
CRITICAL: Only have the phone connected to either the bike (USB or Bluetooth) or Headset, not both at the same time.
For Folks with bluetooth headsets - there are three (3) paths from your phone to your headset
a) phone to bike via wired (USB) then bike to headset, b) phone to bike via wireless (BT) then bike to headset, and c) phone directly to headset wireless (BT)
For folks with wired headsets - there are two (2) paths from your phone to your headset
a) phone to bike via wired (USB) then bike to headset via J&M adapter, b) phone to bike via wireless (BT) then bike to to headset via J&M adapter
Warning: Per the Sena and Cardo reps, even folks with wired headsets should turn off the phone to bike bluetooth connection (if they have it) when plugging the phone into the USB on the bike.
Click Here for a Start Up Guide that ensures comms connect consistently and ACP or AA launch
As discussed in many other threads, consistently following the same start up sequence is a key to success.
Assumption: Headset(s) is(are) connected with the bike (wireless or wired)
A note about extra navigation systems (Garmin, Tom Tom, ect): Extra navigation systems should be paired and connected to the headset on the headset's GPS channel.
Help decision making easier:
Wireless Headset (Bluetooth)
For folks running wireless there are two key choices that need to be made
Choice 1 - either connect your phone to bike (USB or BT) or connect your phone to headset (BT)
then, if choosing to connect your phone to the bike
Choice 2 – either connect phone to bike via USB or connect your phone to the bike via BT.
If choosing USB, the best practice is, on your phone, to turn off BT pairing with the bike
Make those choices based on the capabilities you need/want. The key capabilities can be found in the small tables on the lower left of each configuration
Wired Headset
For folks running wired there is one key choice that needs to be made
Choice 1 – either connect phone to bike via USB or connect your phone to the bike via BT.
If choosing USB, the best practice is, on your phone, to turn off BT pairing with the bike
Make that choice based on the capabilities you need/want.
NOTE: If you are running an extra navigation system (Garmin, Tom Tom, ect), pair and connect the extra nav to your headset on the GPS channel.
Example 1:
You are using a wireless headset. Your phone will be mounted on the handlebars. You want to use the CoPilot app on your phone for route navigation. CoPilot voice commands will not route through the bike to the headset. You would like to be able to receive phone calls. You don’t care about getting text messages. You don’t care about hands free voice commands.
Choice 1: Pair your headset to your phone. On your phone disable the Bluetooth connection with the bike
Choice 2: Not Applicable
Example 2:
You are using a wireless headset. Your phone will be in the center pocket or mounted on handlebars. You want to play music or a pod cast on your phone. You would like to be able to receive phone calls. You don’t care about getting text messages. You don’t care about hands free voice commands.
Choice 1: Connect your headset to the bike.
Choice 2: Pair your phone to the bike via Bluetooth. On your phone disable the Bluetooth connection with the headset
Example 3:
You are using a wireless headset. You want to use Rever, In Route, or Scenic for route navigation. You want to be able to interact with Rever, In Route, or Scenic to modify the route if needed. You would like hands free voice commands. You would like to be able to receive phone calls and listen to and respond to texts messages
Choice 1: Connect your headset to the bike.
Choice 2: Connect your phone to the bike via USB. Your phone will be in the center pocket. On your phone disable the Bluetooth connection with the bike and the headset.
Note: For Example 3, you can leave the Bluetooth connection between the bike and phone enabled but if there is a small chance the BT pairing will not be fully shut off automatically by the phone or bike and cause. If that happens, conflicts and failures may occur
.